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Internal waves in the Qur’an debunked

Some Islamic apologists like to claim that the Qur’an talks about waves beneath the surface of the ocean, in accordance with the scientifically known phenomenon of internal waves.

Let’s look at the verse in question:

“Or [they are] like darknesses within an unfathomable sea which is covered by waves, upon which are waves, over which are clouds – darknesses, some of them upon others. When one puts out his hand [therein], he can hardly see it. And he to whom Allah has not granted light – for him there is no light.”

Qur’an 24:40 (Sahih International)

Word for word translation with annotated grammar:

Notice that it does not say the waves are in the sea. It only says that the darknesses are in the sea. The sea itself is covered by waves upon waves.

The bolded words are a translation of the verb yaghshahu (“it covers it”). Let’s look at that word. It has the masculine suffix “hu”, so the object of the verb is a masculine word. The sea is masculine in Arabic, but not the darkness. So the sea is the thing covered by the wave (wave is in the nominative case). The miracle seekers would need to interpret the verb, which describes what the wave is doing, to mean “be within”. Is that a recognised meaning for the verb ghashawa? Nope.

It means to conceal or cover, not be concealed or within. So using the recognised meaning of the words, supported by evidence, it says the waves are concealing/covering the sea (indeed, cover is the most common translation of the word). The only other way of translating it is to say that the hu suffix to yaghshahu refers to the unbeliever, so that the unbeliever is covered by waves. Even if that is the intended meaning, it still doesn’t indicate that any of these waves are internal to the sea.

The verse sounds like it is describing billowing waves upon a stormy sea. Indeed, the word describing the sea in this verse, lujjiyyin, while often translated as deep or fathomless, can also mean tumultuous in the context of the sea. That is how that word is often translated in this verse.

The word translated waves, mawjun, has the same root as a verb used for tumultuous seas with waves dashing together.

Debunking the Haman miracle

Youtube user stopspamming1 has put together an excellent and thorough debunking of a frequently used apologist claim that the Qur’an contains miraculous knowledge of a real, historical associate of Pharaoh named Haman. The claim is based on an inscription on an ancient Egyptian door post, which allegedly includes the name Haman in hieroglyphs, together with his occupational title.

I’d just like to add something to what other debunkers have said on this with a really quick way of showing the feeble foundation of this claim:

The inscription gives this man’s title as

“Chief of the workers in the stone-quarries of Amun”.

Qur’an 28:38 says about Haman

“And Pharaoh said: O chiefs! I know not that ye have a god other than me, so kindle for me (a fire), O Haman, to bake the mud; and set up for me a lofty tower in order that I may survey the god of Moses; and lo! I deem him of the liars.” (Pickthall translation)

The bolded part in Arabic is literally, “so kindle for me, oh Haman, upon the clay” (links are to Lane’s Lexicon of classical Arabic).

Now clearly, stone-quarries have nothing to do with clay, and baking mud or clay bricks has nothing to do with quarrying. There’s really no need at this point to pay any more attention to such an absurd miracle claim, yet bizarrely, it remains a favourite of apologists.


Welcome to my website dedicated to examining various claims of scientific accuracy and mathematical miracles in the Qur’an.

In the articles section I’ve posted an article (together with a shorter version) on the setting and rising sun controversy concerning Dhu’l Qarnayn in Qur’an 18:83-101. Does it say that the sun has setting and rising places on earth and that it sets in a muddy spring? The vast majority of my article consists of new arguments and evidence.

You can also find there an article examining the claim that there is a binary checksum miracle involving odd and even numbers of suras and ayats in the Qur’an.

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